Wait, What? Ep. 101: Little Shavers
Posted by: Jeff Lester on October 2, 2012
Tags: 2001: A Space Odyssey, Ann Nocenti, Batman, Brandon Graham, Brian Lee O'Malley, Brian Michael Bendis, Catwoman, Dr. Strange, Even Troopers Have Their Limits, Farel Dalrymple, Final Frontier, Frank Brunner, Gene Colan, Gilbert Hernandez, Graeme, Grant Morrison, in-house wikis, Jack Kirby, Jaime Hernandez, Jason Todd, Jeff, K-Box, Love and Rockets, Mark Millar, Matt Fraction, Mike Allred, Multiple Warheads, New 52, New Deadwardians, Prophet, Robert Kirkman, Seconds, special guest star, Steve Englehart, Tom Scioli, Ultimate Avengers, Wait What?, webcomics, Zero Month
Kirby. Kubrick. 2001.
2001 for Episode 101? I don’t think it’s deliberate, but knowing Mr. McMillan, I wouldn’t entirely rule it out either.
After the jump: Welcome to a new age of… Show notes!
0:00-1:51: Testing, testing! (Okay, I admit it: the new age of show notes is pretty much exactly like the old age of show notes.)
1:51-6:39: Graeme (and his new friend, a mystical crow) share an observation about Brian Bendis and his interviews on Word Balloon, which leads to a bit of discussion about our sound problems for Ep. 100. And if anyone wants to do up a splash page for “Even Troopers Have Their Limits!” as described herein, we would figure out some way to thank you for it (probably in twitter shout-outs and old review copies, and if you’ve listened to enough episodes, you know exactly how the labor for those rewards is being divided).
6:39-10:13: Are you experienced in the art of… K-Box? Graeme and Jeff begin developing their next money-making scheme before your very eyes–the oral history of infamous Internet commenters.
10:13-29:58: On to the comics! Graeme wraps up his New52 Zero Issue overview with an examination of the highly remarkable revisions to Tim Drake’s history. And Jason Todd’s history. And Guy Gardener’s history. And Damien Wayne’s history. And Selina Kyle’s history. You may sense a trend here. (Also there were a few parts where I could’ve edited out the musings of mystical crow in there, but I didn’t.)
29:58-34:28: You know what’s not an Issue Zero? Prophet #29 by Brandon Graham and Farel Darymple. It is probably Jeff’s favorite issue since the reboot, if for no other reason than it nails Space Conan angle he finds so enjoyable. Graeme is much more coolish on the reboot generally, and that is a thing we rap about at least long enough to provide…
34:28-49:25: The world’s greatest segue to what Graeme has been reading: Jack Kirby’s 2001: A Space Odyssey! In the first of this episode’s two dramatic readings, Graeme performs Kirby’s text page from the first issue to help make sure our minds are properly blown.
49:25-53:38: So properly blown are our minds, in fact, that Jeff has to get off the phone and call back due to worries about the tech quality of the call. (Also, it should be noted: Jeff is recording despite managing to once again strain his back, and so has taken a muscle relaxant to allow him to twist at the hips easily and sit comfortably and other fun stuff that feels more and more like dire necessities once they are taken away. For extra Whatnaut points, can you determine precisely when the muscle relaxants kick in and make Jeff even more thickheaded and easily baffled?) We get back, Graeme wraps up talking about Kirby and then moves on to Steve Englehart’s ’70s run on Dr. Strange. Us talking admiringly about Englehart is pretty much the free space center spot in the middle of the Wait, What? bingo card, isn’t it?
: Jeff exhorts Graeme to check out Tom Scioli’s amazing love letter to Marvel Comics, Final Frontier
, a webcomic that starts with a quartet of Fantastic Four
analogs giving a farewell concert on the roof of their impressively stacked building, and gets only stranger, wilder, and more hilarious from there.
: Here’s a shocking surprise–Graeme had never heard of Mike Allred’s movie, Astroesque
! Jeff saw it fourteen years or so ago, and can kinda remember it? From there and a consideration of the Allred mystique, it’s on to discuss the Cult of the Indy Creator, whether it hurts or helps the artist, and what it might mean for comics and/or Matt Wagner (about which, Jeff has bungled some of the points he’s taken from the very keen piece on Wagner by Jason Michelitch over at Hooded Utilitarian
) and/or Gilbert Hernandez.
1:17:34-1:21:12: And from there, we get to Jeff confessing his trepidation about Brandon Graham’s Multiple Warheads and Brian Lee O’Malley’s upcoming Seconds and why or why not that should be the case.
1:21:12-1:21:58: Graeme has a tender moment alone with you, the listener. (Well, more like thirty-five seconds… but it is very, very tender, so there’s that.)
1:21:58-1:30:54: Then a moment of high drama: Will Jeff and Graeme remember where they left off? (They do.) Will they have more to say about the expectations of creators and readers, and their shared responsibility for a work? (Yep.) You must tune in to find out! (Except you don’t, see, because I already told you…but that’s not to say it isn’t interesting listening.)
1:30:54-1:41:48: News time! It’s more than just a thing Jeff tries to get Graeme to talk about while he tries to find a reference. Kirkman! Millar! Ultimate Avengers hardcover! Sale prices at Comixology!
1:41:48-1:47:31: Time for our second dramatic reading–this time it’s Jeff, covering that well-known cowboy’s lament, Letter from Matt Fraction to Jaime Hernandez in Love & Rockets New Stories #5 (in the key of E). And maybe we get our new podcast motto out of it?
: Speed round! (By which I mean, the time of the podcast where we kind of act like we’re on speed.) Jeff likes The New Deadwardians
. He likes it a lot. Graeme mentions Larime Taylor, an artist who draws comics with his mouth.
And then we spend some time wondering about Morrisoncon, which will be over by the time you ever hear us talk about it. (And once again, we prove which of us is the optimistic one and which the more pessimistic one.) Also, the return of our special guest-star, information about our upcoming birthdays, and how you can prepare for at least one of us
, should you so choose.
Chances are you can still find us on iTunes, sort of, but, hey, there’s always, like, here?
As always, we hope you enjoy…and thanks for listening!