Wait, What? Ep. 103: Churls on Film
Posted by: Jeff Lester on October 16, 2012
Tags: 120 Days of Simon, Comixology Submit!, Dan Slott, Derek Kirk Kim, Empire State, Freedom Fighters, Graeme, HIkaru No Go, Iron Man, Jason Aaron, Jeff, John Cassaday, John Ostrander, Jonathan Hickman, Justice League Detroit, Justice League of America, K. Thor Jensen, Luke McDonnell, manga, Marvel Comics: The Untold Story, Matt Fraction, Mythomania, Nazis, Red Eye Black Eye, Savage Symposium, Sean Howe, Simon Gardenfors, Suicide Squad, Superior Spider-Man, Takeshi Obata, Uncanny Avengers, Wait What?
They had me at “Kpow!”: Gil Kane Atom slugs Gil Kane Green Lantern, from Justice League of America #200.
And so it’s that time again, O Mighty Whatnauts. Join us behind the jump for show notes and kvetching, ‘kay?
So, first things first: sorry for the bad run of luck we’ve been having vis-a-vis technical difficulties. Graeme starts out the podcast echo-y as all hell but fortunately it gets much better about half an hour through…because we have to stop the call and start again.
In fact, at one point after Graeme and I had been talking for ninety minutes or so, Skype just up and died on me in a way that–unlike other times–caused the recording program to crash out as well, making it look like we’d only have a half-hour podcast, talking about little more than detox diets, Marvel sales strategies, and how Graeme’s library system is so much better than my library system. Thank goodness, I found the temp file and was able to find instructions on the Internet on how to make it editable. So, you know… hooray for the Internet! It’d be nice if something other than hard liquor could now make my hands stop trembling but…eh. What are you gonna do?
And on that note of melancholic resignation…show notes!
0:00-7:00: Greetings! Also, because apparently we don’t use Twitter properly: what did we just have for lunch? Because Jeff is doing an elimination diet and Graeme has had experience with those. Yes, this is about as far from Waffle Talk as we can get, alas.
7:00-14:31: Superior Spider-Man! Graeme has an update for Jeff as what might be going on there with that upcoming event. Is Dan Slott giving us the Spider-Man comic readers want? The comic he wants? Both? Neither?
Then we discuss Marvel’s current sales. It is probably pretty easy to figure out how we got from the previous topic to this one. Because Jeff had yet to purchase Sean Howe’s Marvel Comics: The Untold Story
we didn’t spend the whole podcast talking about the book, but Graeme does tell me a little bit about the book. We manage to once again work in a mention of Sean’s amazing Tumblr
, Graeme uses the word “spectacular” and Matt Fraction gets mentioned–so please check those boxes off your Wait, What? bingo board.
New comics! Which is to say: old comics! Yes, Jeff was a little strapped for cash last week and so tried to live life the Graeme McMillons way…by checking books out of the library. Because it is not Graeme’s magical Portland library, Jeff’s picks are a little more off the beaten path but worthy of discussion anyway. First up: Empire State
by Jason Shiga. Also, Jeff exhorts Graeme to check out superstar-in-the-making Jason Shiga in Derek Kirk Kim’s Youtube comedy series about struggling cartoonists, Mythomania
. See Jason Shiga before he becomes Judd Apatow’snext superstar!
37:56-39:39: And then….tech disaster! We end up having to break off the call to get Skype to behave.
39:39-47:32: Back to books! Jeff sums up his feelings on Empire State before moving on to 120 Days of Simon by Simon Gardenfors, a book so impressive Graeme didn’t recognize the name despite having actually read it. (To be honest, Jeff isn’t so crazy about it, either.) If the idea of a cartoonist traveling cross-country to be befriended by strangers and fans, Jeff recommends the similar-but-far-superior Red Eye, Black Eye by K. Thor Jensen (the title of which Jeff, in true Jeff-like fashion, reverses when he discusses it).
47:32-58:39: Saving the best for last, Jeff discusses Hikaru No Go by Yumi Hotta and Takeshi Obata. He didn’t read it quite far enough to have a very solid understanding of the game Go (I say that we know it here in the States as Othello which is utterly wrong) but actually liked it quite a lot. (Now that he’s three volumes in, he can say he likes it even more! And that Go is not Othello.) We talk about how this is exactly the kind of educational but addictive comics that manga can do so well.
58:39-1:12:01: Also in the old stuff that is awesome category, Jeff discovers the first two issues of Ostrander and McDonnell’s Suicide Squad are on Comixology (first issue is ninety-nine cents!) and re-reads them for the first time in almost thirty years. Somehow, despite there being eleven panels on the page, these are widescreen comics before widescreen comics were invented. Also read by Jeff on Graeme’s recommendation Justice League of America Annual #2 with the formation of Justice League Detroit, as well as issues #107 and #108 of JLA featuring the return of the Freedom Fighters. And Graeme makes JLA #200 sound pretty damn great as well. (See above for proof.)
1:12:01-1:22:04: Comixology…Submit! It’s not some crazed BDSM fad that’s sweeping the nation, it’s the new program coming from Comixology that allows people to get their own self-published books on Comixology (for a 50% cut of the proceeds). Is it a good deal, especially considering the very quiet launch of Hunt Emerson’s app of his own material.
1:22:04-1:37:02: Jeff had an uncomfortable moment with Uncanny Avengers #1 on Comixology, but Graeme, having read it, apparently had even more. We also discuss Fraction’s Iron Man which is now coming to an end, and which we both admit we want to see where it goes. And Graeme also has two great bits of semi-related behind-the-scenes Marvel info, courtesy of Sean Howe’s book.
1:37:02-end: Graeme tries to make Jeff guess which book he recently read and enjoyed? [Hint: it's really not the book you would expect. Certainly, Jeff didn't.] And which book he also read but cannot discuss? [You can probably figure this one out.] As is our wont, we also talk related sales figures and the like until Jeff, weakened and famished, convinces Graeme to issue his mystical cry to end the podcast. One step closer to Ragnarok!
The show should have already popped up on your RSS feed of choice or made its appearance felt in the luminiferous ether that is iTunes…but you can also gather friends around a table, conduct a little seance, and conjure it here, should the spirits move you:
Wait, What? Ep. 103: Churls on Film
And, as always, we hope you enjoy!