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Wait, What? Ep. 125: Short Round

Jeff Lester

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Caricature by Michael Corley of Vox in a Box, who clearly knows us — and our recording woes — well.

Hey! It’s episode 125 and it’s, um, short. Yup, Skype problems kept us to a (what some would call reasonable) length of just under an hour. Sorry? You’re welcome? We don’t know anymore! But we are already in the process of taking steps to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

After the jump: show notes! Kirby! More whingeing!


0:00-3:24:  And this is why I never make plans.  As the saying goes, “If you want God to laugh at your podcast, make a plan. Or try to describe moe.”
3:24-32:18: Graeme is mainlining The West Wing.  Jeff mainlined the fourth season of Arrested Development and was hoping to talk about serialized TV fiction vs. serialized superhero comic book fiction.  Graeme, having picked up the biography of Chris Morris (No Known Cure: The Comedy of Chris Morris, I think?), talks about Jam and Blue Jam.  Also mentioned: Futurama, Firefly, Pushing Daisies, and following your bliss.
32:18-36:05:  Comics!  Very old comics!  Jeff and Graeme talk about the awesome that is merely a quick plot synopsis of Jack Kirby’s Kamandi issues #21-23 (on the podcast I say it’s just two issues but it is in fact three but each issue is ninety-nine cents on Comixology).  Here is the page we mention that I tweeted because of its awesomeness:
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Yup, I would say Jack Kirby predicted the Internet with 100% accuracy. From Kamandi #22

Also mentioned in passing: Graeme’s theory about The Demon and Venture Bros.
36:05-42:46:  Also available on Comixology? Bad Dog by Graham Chaffee, a charming 26 page black and white comic that is currently free.  This leads to a fascinating confession from Graeme about the double-edged storytelling trick that is putting dogs in trouble, and then—
36:12–SKYPEPOCALYPSE (and Intermission #1)
38:48-42:46:  And we’re back!  More about dogs, a bit about what the hell just happened, and maybe the start of a new feature: “request words for Graeme McMillan to say on-air.”
42:46-54:31: Fast & Furious 6!  It’s not a comic book but it might as well be!  Graeme hasn’t seen it but Jeff has and is very happy to talk about it (and spoil the last scene of the film, which is really about the only minute of the film that can be spoiled).  The most important cinematic question of our time:  Is the franchise more like The Wacky Races or the Laff-A-Lympics?  Join the fight here!
54:31-end:  For those keeping track at home, Graeme is now more optimistic this week about Man of Steel.  Maybe that’s why Skype finally decided it was through with us: not enough talk about genuine comic books?

See?  Short!  Or maybe…petite?  Refreshing discreet?  In any event, el shrimpo should have made its way to iTunes or else its appearance is imminent.  But also — it is here?  Already cut up into nice little pieces for easy chewing:

Wait, What? Ep. 125: Short Round

As always, we appreciate your patronage and thank you for listening.  We will be back in more typical filibusterian fashion!

15 Responses to “ Wait, What? Ep. 125: Short Round ”

  1. What I love about the Fast Five Movies is that they basically use the tropes of JLA stories. It would be the equivalent of a Superman/Batman movie for the first movie, a Green Lantern/Flash movie for the second movie, a J’onn J’onzz/Aquaman movie in the third (where J’onn J’onzz dies), a Superman/Batman/WW movie for the fourth movie, a Justice League Movie for the Six Movie where they fight off Appelaxian Invaders with the government after them, a Justice League vs. Crime Syndicate movie (where they split up and JJ dies), and then the 7th movie of Deathstroke taking out the JLA one by one.

    The whole franchise is like a mental exercise by Mark Waid to write a series of JLA movies without having them put on costumes or call themselves superheroes.

  2. Here’s Wacky Races in 2013 guys: http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/videos/8752931/Wacky-Races-revived-in-Peugeot-ad

  3. I like that cartoon up top, but is Jeff’s beard no more, then?

    Graeme, talking of British sitcoms, when you were in Scotland did you catch new ITV show Vicious, starring Sirs Ian McKellan and Derek Jacobi as a bickering couple, with Frances De La Tour as their sexpot friend? It’s resolutely old-fashioned in its staginess, but cuttingly funny.

    You were both right, Laffalympics and Wacky Races both combined old cartoon characters (though Snidely Whiplash wasn’t in WR).

    Pushing Daisies – wasn’t tweeness the point? I got to one commercial break before my teeth fell out.

    Talking of comics comebaces, Giffenm DeMatteis and Maguire managed the trick a few times with the Justice League.

  4. I like that cartoon up top, but is Jeff’s beard no more, then?

    Graeme, talking of British sitcoms, when you were in Scotland did you catch new ITV show Vicious, starring Sirs Ian McKellan and Derek Jacobi as a bickering couple, with Frances De La Tour as their sexpot friend? It’s resolutely old-fashioned in its staginess, but cuttingly funny.

    You were both right, Laffalympics and Wacky Races both combined old cartoon characters (though Snidely Whiplash wasn’t in WR).

    Pushing Daisies – wasn’t tweeness the point? I got to one commercial break before my teeth fell out.

    Talking of comics comebacks, Giffen, DeMatteis and Maguire managed the trick a few times with the Justice League.

  5. U.S. comedies seem to be veering toward the wholly unlikeable cast of bastard characters. Always Sunny and Happy Endings come to mind.

    Maybe next week, you can go in depth with The Fictional Man? There was zero Al Ewing mentions this week.

    Graeme, can you please say, “I have the latest Avon Brochure for you” or “You shall not pass!”

    Thanks again, guys!

  6. Thanks for using the caricature for the post! I can’t wait to hear the podcast attached to it.

  7. I want Graeme to say:

    “It’s…a murder!”

    Because I saw it on Taggart once and it sounded cool.

  8. …also I’m STILL holding out for the all bagpipe re-mix of the Wait, What? theme song.

  9. OH MY GOD are you wrong about Fire Walk With Me, Graeme. That’s one of Lynch’s best films and the perfect coda for Twin Peaks.

  10. Has anyone ever mixed the Twin Peaks Pilot and Fire Walk With Me in sort of a mashup movie? I think that would make for an interesting movie.

  11. I’m not surprised that Graeme doesn’t get Arrested Development, but I am a little surprised and disappointed in Jeff. My feelings are probably best summed up by Abhay’s review – I loved the new season, I loved its structure (which actually did the “playing with chronology” thing well, as opposed to, say, the absolute abortion that was Morrison’s Action run), I loved its pitch-black tone and the way the show took these awful, selfish characters – especially Michael, who I think a certain section of fandom has (mis)identified as “the good one” – and, one by one, demonstrated how badly they need each other, and what utterly miserable fucks they become when they don’t have each other. That the show was able to press forward with such a grim message and make it nevertheless still incredibly funny is a remarkable achievement.

  12. I think that season 4 may well be the DK2 of TV. Basically, it’s a great, bold piece of experimental entertainment that dares to do something new with a beloved formula. It’s also undeniably baggy an overstuffed, but I loved it for it’s audacity, and certain individual episodes stand as genuinely brilliant short films about these damaged people.

  13. Graeme, please say “Oh, no! The terrible Beagle Boys are breaking into my Money Bin!”. Thank you.

  14. Weirdly enough I’ve just finishing mainlining both The West Wing and Arrested Development, hurray for Netflix! The West Wing is great (I know, shocker!) and it holds up well and the post Sorkin seasons are actually still great. It was fascinating seeing how it approached today’s big topics back then. It seems oversensitive regarding race in the early seasons when you consider Obama is a two term president now but it was well up on things like oil dependency.

    Season 4 of Arrested Development was brilliant, screw the haters. It was much more ambitious than Graeme gave it credit for (he should go watch the rest) and it was very funny. Sure not every episode was amazing but isn’t that the case with every season of everything? It was nice to see it take advantage of the fact that most people would end up watching all the episodes in a short space of time rather than weekly. This is something I thought House of Cards failed to do, I really enjoyed it but it felt like it was filmed for TV and then dumped on Netflix

  15. I feel the same way about Arrested Development season 4 as I do Scott Pilgrim. It was brilliant, hilarious and made almost everything else I watched for a good while after seem lazy and half assed. When the public didn’t embrace it I felt like, “Well, I guess we can’t have nice things!”

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