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Wait, What? Ep. 127: Capers

Jeff Lester

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Welcome to my nightmare, ladies and gentlemen.  My terrifying longbox filled nightmare.

After the jump: very quick shownotes because I am running behind, and I have a tummy ache! (And I am apparently eight!)

(Oh, and check out those John K(UK) posts below, would you?  They’re very good — I’m not even a father but I felt a special paternal glow from having all those 2001 covers and splash pages reprinted.  The perfect gift!

So, yes.  I may punk out shownotes-wise, but the podcast itself does not–Two hours! No intermission!  As many exclamation points as a Steve Englehart comic!

0:00-11:48: Opening comments; the longbox project; steampunk; the search for comic book cockery.
11:48-28:23: Kick-Ass 2 Prelude: Hit-Girl.  One of us read it.  Who? And, more importantly: Why?
28:23-45:58: Also discussed:  Superman: The Secrets of the Fortress of Solitude trade paperback, with a discussion of Superman and his fortress through the years; Superman painting; Superman’s friendships; Superman’s robot; Superman’s thong; and more.
45:58-51:48: Graeme has read Action Comics #21, and Superman #20, and has things to say about both.
51:48-1:04:48: And we both picked up Superman Unchained #1 by Scott Snyder and Jim Lee, so there’s some talk about that, too.
1:04:48-1:11:28: Pleased with his experience reading 2000AD digitally, Jeff has subscribed to Judge Dredd Megazine digitally.  Sadly, there’s a whole weird intermission where Jeff goes off to find out what the digital graphic novel packed in with the Megazine is…and fails.  Enjoy, everybody!  (Turns out it was Downlode Tales Vol. 3 for 335 Black Light Vol. 1 for 336).
1:11:28-1:32:48: Batman: Zero Year (or Batman #21 as it’s known in the colonies) by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo–also read by both Graeme and Jeff! We squabble, we tussle, we disagree about The Riddler. Sadly, Jeff brings up a potentially great topic–our five favorite Batman villains–and derails it just seconds later due to his befuddlement about Forever Evil.  Oh, Jeff.
1:32:48-end: Graeme has reread Brightest Day (because apparently this is our DC books from the library week).  We talk about whether or not the New 52 helped or hindered Johns’ Aquaman pitch, whether the New 52 is stabilizing or destabilizing, and other delightful topics.  Also discussed:  Suicide Squad #21 by Ales Kot and Patrick Zircher; Supermag by Jim Rugg; Empowered Animal Style by Adam Warren and John Staton; Relish by Lucy Knisley; Jennifer Blood #28 by Mike Carroll & Kewber Baal ; Star Wars #6 by Brian Wood and Carlos D’Anda; the saddest afterword in the world; and more.  And then it is done!

Choosy mothers who choose Jif know that four out of five dentists listen to Wait, What? on iTunes, but the podcast is certainly available for you right here and  right now right below:

Wait, What? Ep. 127: Capers

As always, we hope you enjoy, and thank you for listening!

12 Responses to “ Wait, What? Ep. 127: Capers ”

  1. I’m not especially into steampunk, but I am finalizing a steampunk graphic novel for SPX called The Dirty Epic of Phillip K Dickens. Because it was too much fun not to make.

  2. @Rhodes: hah! That’s a good pun.

  3. Oh man, I am so glad I’m not the only guy who thought SUPERMAN UNCHAINED was kind of worthless.

    In regards to DC on general, I’d argue the tipping point for “the top part” as Jeff calls it was the whole fire/re-hire of Gail Simone. It showed just how poisonous the atmosphere in editorial had gotten, that of all people Rob Liefeld wasn’t just a Chicken Little (at least not in that particular instance). It was the pebble that started the avalanche of creators leaving titles after one issue or solicitation. Maybe it was the afterglow of the New 52’s success, but John Rozum’s departure just didn’t have the same impact.

    This was a particularly fantastic episode, gents. Keep ‘em coming.

  4. Great news, guys. Kelex The Gay Robot appears in Man O’ Steel and is voiced by famous gay man Carla Gugino.

  5. I’m just curious, since both of you have professed your love of manga, The New Teen Titans, and Brave and the Bold, what do you think of Teen Titans and Teen Titans Go?

    Especially this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEjUGJW_1-U

  6. Graeme,

    Just want to say that I, too, prefer the Brave & the Bold cartoon to the original Batman Animated. And I’m a guy who loves his dark stories, but Brave & the Bold seemed to capture, for me, the wonder and fun of superheroes that’s been missing in my comic reading for a looooooong time.

    chris

  7. Modern Riddler would pretty much be Anonymous, wouldn’t he/she/they? The Riddler Collective believes information should be free to those smart enough to get it. Everyone else will have to pay.

  8. Non-Steam-Punk fan checking in.

    Man, I gotta say, I was a little thrown off by your reactions to the Amanda Conner afterword. It just seemed like a pretty fun piece about a pretty hard job with a funny punchline. I didn’t get why Jeff was crying and Amanda is passive aggressive. Is there something I’m missing here?

  9. Hit Girl, like the Netflix season of Arrested Development is not dissimilar to the Magical Mystery Tour of the Beatles catalogue. The Magical Mystery Tour Syndrome: Your next album can’t sound like the last, but this time you’ve gone too far and have alienated your audience. You have to give an artist credit for changing direction and not entirely repeating themself for the sake of their muse, but then they simultaneously stick their heads up their assess.

    That could pretty much apply to life in general, I suppose.

  10. Best episode in a while gentlemen. You both sounded good and energised, and Jeff’s take down of Hit Girl made me happy.

  11. @Jeff, that little short box in front is like Homer’s attempt to assuage fears about his increasing alcoholism.

    H: Okay, Marge. For you, I’ll give up rum-based cocktails, except mojitos and rum and Cokes.

    M: Well, that’s no promise at all. It’s important for me to see you take at least one step. Then maybe we can have some memories together that aren’t just a nauseous blur.

    H: All right. For you, I will give up all clear liquors.

    M: Really? Even Zima?

    Jeff Lester: Just this one more little box…

    @VOODOO BEN: No Worries, friend! I just saw John Rozum’s name proudly on display in the credits of…Scooby Doo. Aw hell.

  12. @Jeff: yes, I was on the bus screaming DOWLODE VOL # BY DAN ABNETT! Glad you filled in that detail. Oddly, here in the colonies I can find Dredd Megazine on some newsstands but have never, ever seen a 2000 AD.

    @Graeme: I remember loving Batman: Animated back in the day, but now, not so much. Maybe animation has changed too much, but what seemed stylish, noir and cutting now seems unfinished and rushed. But still: the opening sequence is fantastic; I unreservedly love zeppelins; great use of light/dark; and Conroy, Hammill, Zimbalist have set the standard only just reached by the Nolan movies.

    And let me add my voice to the chorus on Brave and the Bold. I watch that with Daughters (Ottawa) who have come to think Kamandi, Red Tomato (sic), B’wana Beast, Aquaman and the Doom Patrol are total awesome. Hell, they even like Booster Gold. For doubters, please watch Season Two’s: “Aquaman’s Outrageous Adventure!” Note also, the Lynda Carter Wonder Woman theme appears in a classic ep. And c’mon, ….the MUSIC MEISTER! The whole series is right out of Bob Haney’s brain. Yes, I just said that.

    They also thought JLU was pretty great (but are pretty bleh on JL). Zatanna.. Star Girl… The Question…Green Arrow singing his own theme song as he swings into action…the Blackhawks yelling “Hawkaaaa” flying out of the sun….Wonder Woman hitting on Batman….Supergirl punching dinosaurs with Travis (Warlord) Morgan…..Awesome! Dad had no complaints either.

    Dear DC: My girls love your characters, why do you not make comics they (we) can read? I guess we’ll follow Jordan Smith and join the awesome John Rozum on Scooby Doo!

    PS: @Jordan Smith: I have 117 short boxes. I don’t have a problem; I’m a social collector. Maybe I collect a bit extra on weekends, but I am totally in control.

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