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Wait, What? Ep. 14.1: “You think they’re cuddly…”


Should you wish to hear Graeme and I hold forth about the recent controversy that was Alan Moore’s recent interview, and should you also wish to hear Mr. McMillion$ and myself ponder the current comics marketplace, and should you also wish to hear He-Who-Knows-All and I-Who-Know-Bupkis sketch out a rough theory about a “generation gap,” you may do so at your leisure, either at Ye Olde Itunes, or below:

Wait, What? Episode 14.1

We hope you find it to your liking! A less sizable (but perhaps equally risible) installment shall follow upon the morrow.

9 Responses to “ Wait, What? Ep. 14.1: “You think they’re cuddly…” ”

  1. […] Random Thought! Quote of the week: “There is no sensible in comics fandom these days.” — Graeme “McMillion$” […]

  2. I think going to the pot-addled hippy well is probably a little reductive.

    Somebody else said this first, but I think if we’re going to ask these questions – and honestly, I don’t think anyone comes off well, here, and I don’t really think there’s anything left to learn about this situation at this point – then I’d like to hear, rather than read, Moore’s words. Tone is important, and without it, it becomes so much easier to project expectations, assumptions and bias on a subject.


  3. (A Slight Parallel: John Constantine is from Liverpool, not London, although by this point, he’s spent over thirty years in the capital. I don’t know when that was revealed, or by whom, but the voice I hear in my head when reading his dialogue now sounds more affected, even fake to me than it would have otherwise. And I know fine well the way accents can be retained or tossed aside or rediscovered in context through my own rather mobile family. But to my mind’s ear, John Constantine sounds more like Eric Idle in the “Nudge-Nudge” sketch than Jason Statham, and that changes my perception of the character. It makes me trust him less, which is probably about right.)

    (redacted from earlier post so as to have one, just one piece of text on the internet where I’m not being giddy)

    (I’m teetotal)

    (Linda Henry: the only actor alive capable of playing John Constantine)



  4. I think Matthew Craig has an important point there about tone and whatnot. A lot of what Moore was saying came across, to me, as a (very British?) kind of ironic hyperbole which at one and the same time exaggerates his complaints, while also gently mocking the complainant for becoming so exercised but also acknowledging that there is something there to be genuinely concerned about. Or something. Clarity failed me there, I think.

    I don’t get why people are still upset about the ending of Watchmen (Jeff? It was Jeff wasn’t it? Hi, Jeff!). To prove it I will now get upset about it (joke!). The whole thing was an exercise in deflating the pomp and colour of the super-hero spectacle. It seems entirely appropriate, to me, that although it seems to be building to a typically titanic two-fisted climax it, well, it doesn’t. A small, sad, and entirely temporary, victory seems totally in keeping with the work itself. Or maybe not, just throwing that hat in the ring.

    For me, the important thing about the Moore piece was that someone was speaking out about the (legal note: perceived) shabby practices of the comics companies. This is great because Moore is free of The System and able to blow his many whistles at full volume. This is also not so great because Alan Moore can get a bit feisty and can be dismissed as an addled-hippy.

    But, I don’t mind Alan Moore,who may not be perfect but is in my estimation more sinned against than sinning, throwing darts that might lodge in people’s minds and make them question just how much the Comics Industry actually resembles that tree house full of chuckling pals who just make comics for love that we all so fervently wish it was.

    It probably changed nothing. So it goes.

    Anyway, finish that novel Mr. Alan Moore!

  5. Look, Alan Moore has a beard! That means he looks like other people who have beards!

  6. Regarding comments above about tone – I’ve found, as a complete know-nothing comics reader, that a good antidote to ranty-looking interviews with Moore is mellower audio interviews with him. This


    comes from around 2004-05 I think, and I think he comes over much better (see around the 1min30 mark or the 5min35 mark). Though I guess he may well have further ossified since then.

  7. Hey guys new to the show so I am a little late. Saw that no one pointed out that Graeme’s theory about the power of Alan Moore causing the rucuss is shot down by Bendis’s getting the same reaction with his no long form comics journalism comments having caused the same reaction.

    The prevalence of Digital media just gives to many chances to these guys to say something flippant and stupid. Then the only people who see it worth commenting on do so not out of any rational reason (which will always be “that comment was flippant and stupid”) but out of irrational emotional reason’s (“I am offended” or “I feel the need to defend my idol”).

    I personally think that it is a shame not only how Moore has been treated but how many/most creators have been treated in comic’s storied history. I also feel that it would be awesome to have more long form comic journalism. But ultimately that both Moore’s and Bendis’s comments were incredibly stupid public statements.

    Keep up the good work guys you have definitely picked up another loyal listener.

  8. That’s a very nice contrast, Jason, and I think you’re right about how digital media will probably lead to more, not less, of these types of situations.

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