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Wait, What? Ep. 28: Good Old Boys

Jeff Lester


Ah, yes. The podcast. You haven’t forgotten about us, have you?

Believe it or not, we haven’t, either. My new method of allowing the podcast to upload to iTunes before creating an entry here on the SavCrit, however, has led to a bit of lag on my part, for which I apologize.  We hope to make it up to you in the coming week.

In fact, in this very entry, we’re giving you both installments of Episode 28–our comic-free prologue, in which Graeme and I talk They Might Be Giants, Randy Newman, and the British TV comedy triumvirate of The IT Crowd, Father Ted, and Brass Eye; and Episode 28 proper, where we discuss at length books like Iron Man #500.1, Power Man and Iron Fist #1, Wolverine #5 and 5.1, and Chris Roberson’s work on Superman:Grounded and Superman/Batman.

Both installments are up on iTunes now, but if you’d rather hear them here, we would be delighted:

The Comics-Free Prologue to Episode 28!

Wait, What, Ep. 28: The Comics-Filled Podcast!

So, you know.  Hooray for content, right?  With luck and a certain amount of steely determination on my part, we should also have the lengthy Ep. 29, separated into satisfying less-daunting chunks, also ready for you here this week.

We hope you enjoy ’em and, as always, thanks for listening!

6 Responses to “ Wait, What? Ep. 28: Good Old Boys ”

  1. Regarding the Point Ones and whether they achieve their stated goal…are “jumping on points” really as necessary as people make them out to be? I mean, I know some franchises can be a bit daunting and incomprehensible at first, but is there really anything about any given issue of Spider-Man that would be so terribly confusing to a new reader? Do you really need to know anything about Iron Man beyond what’s in the movies?

    (puts Old Man hat on)
    In my day, if you wanted to get into Batman comics, you went to the store and picked up a comic with Batman on the cover, and then if you liked it you’d buy the next issue or another series or back issues or whatever. And maybe you didn’t catch every reference or identify every character right away, but if it was interesting enough you’d keep coming back.

    What’s changed? Is it the decompressed pacing, the higher price tags? Or have the readers changed — are people just no longer okay with not having everything explained to them up front?

  2. A better name for Blood Femur would be Bas-Femur

    Regarding the point one issues, I think they are kind of genius in a way. Marvel wants to have X number of comics out each month and that number is more than the number of incredibly popular franchises it has. They’ve tried introducing new characters, they’ve tried giving characters more than one ongoing series at a time, and now they’re going to try just double shipping a bunch of titles every month.

    And if you can get a few more readers to jump on as well than thats just gravy.

  3. My itunes downloaded ep 29 two or three days ago, but is only now downloading these two.

    What did you boys do to Steve Jobs to make apple hate your podcast so?

  4. Graeme’s slightly misremembering the show that got Chris Morris banned from live radio. It wasn’t the Queen Mother, it was Michael Heseltine. Strictly speaking, he didn’t actually say Heseltine had died, but he did strongly imply it. (“If there’s any news of the death of Michael Heseltine in the next hour, we’ll be sure to bring it to you.”) And while he did phone an MP up, he didn’t say Heseltine was dead, just that he was updating the obituary. As I recall, that was supposed to be the central joke: the patent insincerity of the tributes when heard in the context of the rest of the conversation. I suspect he got into more trouble for impersonating a BBC journalist than for actually claiming Heseltine had died.

  5. I was fascinated by Jeff’s “rant” about the AA scene in Iron Man. I haven’t read that issue, so I can’t comment on how that scene develops or plays out and whether or not it is heavy-handed or inappropriate to the development of the character or storyline. (Then why the hell am I commenting, right?)

    I have attended enough AA and NA meetings to know first hand that members hook-up even though it is detrimental to their recovery and sobriety and therefore is frowned upon. What it means when one engages in such behavior, is that the person is truly not “working the program” properly (“Working the system” makes it sound like some sort of scam).

    If in the book Tony hit on a fellow AA member in recovery, but then thought better of it, it would reflect highly on his character for recognizing his weakness and correcting his behavior.

    I guess now I’m going to have to buy the dang book and see if I agree with Jeff’s assessment or not. Damn you Jeff.

  6. Robert: Thank you for the insights (and correction) and I hope you forgiving me for having to pick up the book. I think your observation about Tony recognizing his weakness and correcting his behavior could well be the point of what Fraction’s getting at with the story’s conclusion (which Graeme pointed out).

    I think the idea that nobody else at the meeting (especially a fellow meeting-goer) is aware that this is a no-no is still exasperating to me.

    If you feel like sharing more once you’ve read the issue, I’d love to know your thoughts. But either way, I really appreciate you taking the time to comment.

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