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Wait, What? Ep. 38: The Day That Comes Afterwards

Jeff Lester


Why yes, I did quote Rebecca Black’s Friday and reprint one of the worst things Rob Liefeld’s ever done (well, or pretended to do, really).  It is the Bizarro Wait, What?, filled with nothing but the desire to inflict pain rather than love.

Although to be fair, we do talk about Shrink, as well as Russel T. Davies’s The Writer’s Tale, Dave McKean’s Celluloid, Action Comics #900, Casanova, Brightest Day, the idea of Black Avengers, and the appeal of superheroes.  Honestly, as Bizarros, we probably could’ve done worse.

It’s available now on iTunes (probably), and you can also listen to it here:

Wait, What?, Ep. 38: The Day That Comes Afterwards

We hope you enjoy and, as always, thanks for listening! (Man, I’d make the worst Bizarro ever….)

15 Responses to “ Wait, What? Ep. 38: The Day That Comes Afterwards ”

  1. Wally West’s marriage is not horrible it is just no one knew how to write his family so he got replaced with Barry. (Does that count as your marriage being horrible?)

  2. @Rick – Personally I think the TPTB looked at their Super Powers action figures and decided it was time to return to the JLA satellite era.

  3. Alright Graeme! You can not just say that one of Glee’s problems is continuity and then drop the subject like a hot potato. Details, dude! Details! Show me the evidence to back up your ridiculous claim (yeah yeah, I’m betraying my inner Gleekiness). I’ll give you that the show has problems, but I’m not sure that continuity is one of them. They introduce characters and then drop them for weeks and months on end (where’s Beist? where’s Terri been hiding all season long? She’s a series regular and gets like… two scenes… three tops?). Storylines zip along at ridiculous speeds… Terri and Will get divorced paving the way for Emma and Will to get together, and then she’s dating her dentist. Then they’re married. Then… they’re not. That ought to be a couple of seasons worth of story. Instead it gets three shows. Characters get turned into cartoons pretty quickly (Hello, Sue!) but on the whole their behaviour remains consistent throughout the show. But where’s the continuity problems of which you speak? Prove it, big guy! Put your money where your mouth is. And do it in song! With bongos as a backup, please.

  4. Wow! What a marathon to listen to this weeks blog. It’s obvious you read Action Comics #900 before the controversy hit the fan, and thought nothing to mention of it. Goes to show what a storm in a teacup the whole thing is.

    Marriages (DC – as that is all I read) that have been successful (I say successful, as they are still married):

    Jay & Joan Garrick
    Allan & Molly Scott
    Sue & Ralph Digby
    Wally & Linda Park

    Hmmm. That’s it off the top of my head.

    Can anyone add to that?


  5. I think the golden-age Hourman is still married to his wife. And then there’s Jesse Quick and the current Hourman. they’re still happily hooked up.

  6. Lois and Clark?

  7. Although their marriage is probably invalid due to Superman’s filthy lies about being born in Kansas. #thanksforremindingmegoyer

    (Tongue in Cheek)

  8. Jeff, your description of being a Marvel fan-in-exile is absolutely spot-on and summarizes how I feel as well. If you swap “Sega” for “Marvel”, it reminds me of this Penny Arcade strip: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/03/11/

  9. Graeme: sorry, man, but you’re wrong about The Crew. The “white guy”–Kasper Cole, the former Black Panther at the end of Priest’s run–was a light-skinned half-black, half-white guy. As American history and President Obama will tell you, that makes him a black guy.


    Also, the “Mexican guy” wasn’t Mexican, he was South American:


    So The Crew had three black members (two and a half if you want to be technical about it) and one hispanic, and Priest did get a lot of flak for having a black agenda. Which is silly on the face of it, because in a “street level” series like The Crew, it makes sense to have people of color headlining it–you could make an argument about the neo-colonial “white agenda” of having Daredevil or the Punisher cleaning up street crime…

  10. ps. It would equally silly to argue a “white agenda” as well, if I didn’t make that clear above. Insertion of personal politics in funnybooks is never a good idea.

  11. Graeme, isn’t it time you stopped reading Matt Fraction’s work altogether? Outside of Casanova, I’m not a fan either, but listening to the podcasts, it seems like you’ve reached a point where Fraction can do no right by you as a reader. That’s cool – I feel the same way about Bendis and some other people – but then why do you continue to read his stuff?

  12. Listening to this episode, starting with your idea of Superman in therapy and ending with the discussion of race in comics, reminded me of Superman #179, by Jeph Loeb and Geoff Johns. If you guys haven’t read it, you owe it to yourselves to check it out, because it not only features one of the most heartfelt-yet-utterly-misguided attempts to address racial issues ever published, but also Superman’s therapist.

  13. “features one of the most heartfelt-yet-utterly-misguided attempts to address racial issues ever published,”


    I’ve been reading 1999/2000 Superman books recently* (buying issues here and there off Ebay), and Joe Kelly, as well as Stuart Immomen/Mark Millar, were working hard to work the marriage into the book, and really used the marriage as a strength for the characters (even if it was a completely idealized view of a marriage, I think that works for Superman – how could he be anything other than the best husband ever?)

    *Also getting scattered back issues of Maggin’s Superman stuff – that is some great crazy reading.

    In one, Superman, dressed as Batman, is MCing a Bob Dylan/Joan Baez concert.

    There’s an annual drawn by Alex Toth, where Lex Luthor uses Red Kryptonite to change Superman’s face to look like his, then pretending to be his own twin brother gets Superman arrested as Lex, which ends with Batman going undercover as a somewhat racist caricature of an Italian street-side pizza salesman, who is overcharging for his food, to play a prank on Clark Kent.

  14. Bongo did a book called Heroes Anonymous about superheroes in group therapy which wasn’t bad. Scott M. Gimple (Life/Flashforward) wrote it and Pia Guerra did the art for the second issue.

    Like the Superman in marriage counselling a lot. If the identity thing is a problem have him and Lois just see a counsellor in the future, like Legion times.

    I’m just surprised Metropolis knows the guy anymore. He’s taken like three years off from looking after the place.

  15. Only just started listening to the podcast, so apologies if this is picked up on later, but the Incredible Bongo Band wasn’t actually a bongo band…

    The IBB version of Apache is awesome, nonetheless.

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