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nu52: “…and the rest, here on Gilligan’s Isle.”

Brian Hibbs

Wrapping up week one, here’s the Professor and Mary Anne of the way I chose to survey this: Green Arrow, Hawk & Dove, and JLI.

(Seriously, it’s 9:30 on Wednesday, and I haven’t yet cracked a week 2 book! I’m really wildly behind this week!)

GREEN ARROW #1:  Complete and total reboot here. Absolutely nothing in common, besides name, of the old version. Really, this is confusing! There’s a journeyman level of craft going on here, but there’s nothing that actually thrilled me, or made me want to read another one ever. Pretty much a perfect definition of an EH comic book.


HAWK & DOVE #1: Meanwhile this is “just” a continuation of the “old” DCU — with Deadman as Dove’s “boyfriend” and everything (which is, like: WHAT?! in the first place) — this shit really is crazy confusing. I mean, like, without the “old” Green Arrow, then who or what was in forest protecting the tree during Brightest Day, in the first place? Ugh, it makes my head hurt to think about the continuity here.

Maybe not as much as this comic hurt my head, though. Ew. Ugly, rambling, and confusing as heck (I think that was meant to be Kestral on the last page? But since he looks nearly exactly like Hawk, who can be sure? And, like Kestral hasn’t been seen in a comic in… 15 years? More?) Either way, I truly thought this one was AWFUL.


JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL: Mm, yeah, that was alright, but nothing exciting; much like STORMWATCH, it’s still in “getting to know you” mode, so everyone shuffles in, says their line of dialogue, and moves on. Generic, but competent, once again: EH.


As always: what did YOU think?


11 Responses to “ nu52: “…and the rest, here on Gilligan’s Isle.” ”

  1. Deadman as Dove’s boyfriend. There’s a love that will never be consummated in the physical sense. Or if it somehow could be, that is just a really creepy thought, because he would have to enter her body not just as Deadman, but as a DEAD MAN. Necrophilia anyone?

  2. GREEN ARROW is probably the New 52 title I’m most excited by and it didn’t disappoint me. Just think of it as a way to tell Batman stories without having to deal with any of the Bat-baggage the character has picked up over the years.


  3. It is like they are picking and choosing what continuity to throw away and which to carry on in the new title. How is that accessible to anyone.

  4. And isn’t Roy Harper in a new book? This Green Arrow doesn’t look old enough to have a former kid sidekick who has since grown to adulthood. Ah, as long as the book is okay.

  5. I read Hawk & Dove at the store for the same reason that one slows down to see a car wreck. It was indeed horrifying and fascinating.

    One can make all sorts of snarky comments about Liefeld, and that’s fun, but it left me seriously wondering…

    Suppose you’re Liefeld. You have no formal artistic training, but people dig something about your style, it fits with the times, and you become a super-star comic artist. But you clearly know you have deficiencies. There are things you just can’t draw. There are skills you just lack.

    Wouldn’t you take a little time (he’s been in the industry for over 2 damn decades!) to get some artistic training, to maybe maintain your kewl style but address your deficiencies? Wouldn’t you think, given that you’d become a huge star with no training, that maybe some training would make you the Greatest Comic Artist Ever? Wouldn’t being so close to that status compel you to do that sometime over the course of 20 freaking years?!!?

    What’s with this guy? Obviously, he cares about something else. What that might be, I have no idea…

  6. The conceptual stupidity of this whole thing is piling up at an accelerating rate. They should never have said this was about continuity, just about getting 52 art and writing teams coupled to 52 ideas about comics, and then saying, “If they want to mess with the background, reboot, whatever, that’s their choice”. Then we could just look at the books and say, “Well, this one works, this one doesn’t and this one someone’s going to have to decide whether it’s happening in the same fictional universe as the others, because it doesn’t really make any sense if it’s meant to.” Which is kind of what everyone IS saying, only it’s got all this chaotic noise around it due to Didio & Co. claiming this is continuity-driven yadda yadda yadda.

    There is absolutely no way that these various books work together aesthetically OR in terms of shared-universe fictions. Half of them require a Ph.D in DCU continuity to even begin to assess whether they work or make sense. The ones that don’t require a prior knowledge tend to be aesthetically the least successful or interesting. If you want to do “clean” versions for new readers, the kid-oriented lines for both DC and Marvel have been far better templates.

  7. I enjoyed Hawk And Dove the way I enjoyed The Infinite – which is the way I enjoy a Roger Corman movie.

    Comics aren’t so precious that we can’t enjoy the c-grade as well!

  8. I’m afraid this version of Justice League International is on a much lower level of craft than Stormwatch. It’s a good concept with lots of happy nostalgic connections, and could work. But the writing needs to be a lot better.

  9. When the dark clouds of confusion mar the skies of continuity it’s time to set the night alight with the Roy-Signal! Seriously, could they not get Roy Thomas to sort all this out I bet he’d do it for bus fare and a pasty.

  10. Brian forget the continuity! Thinking about continuity will only serve to drive you mad!

  11. I lost my shit when the Hornet showed up.

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