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Okay, You Can Call This A Comeback; We’ve Been Away

Well, that’ll teach me to make any kind of comment like “We’ll try to do these podcasts more often” in the future. In Jeff’s defense, these four – yes, four – new episodes of Wait, What? were recorded in a couple of sessions last month, and if I had been better at putting them up in any kind of timely order, then they might have been more timely to listen to. But, sadly, various things – including work, a laptop death and just plain forgetfulness – have conspired to make sure that didn’t happen, and that’s why you’re getting four hours of Jeff and I talking nonsense in one sitting right now, before even more time gets away from us. And so, without any further ado: The Missing Wait, What?

Episode 1

Episode 2

Episode 3

Episode 4

If nothing else, our (pre-finale) talk about the ending of Lost really has some kind of historical curiosity value right now, right…? Right…?

13 Responses to “ Okay, You Can Call This A Comeback; We’ve Been Away ”

  1. Oh, right…

  2. […] Savage Critics: Finally, finally posting the long-overdue Wait, What? podcasts with the lovely Jeff Lester, who has amazingly not killed me for dragging my feet in taking three weeks to post them after he […]

  3. “None of the podcasts I listen to have updated, what will I listen to on my commute this week?”

    “Solves that problem. Now I can solve the cause of my night terrors.”

  4. I only just got around to listening to the last one anyway, so I don’t mind belated episodes.

  5. No chance of getting the old ones up on itunes?

  6. Ben: there is a chance, though I’m thinking I’m going to have to try and create a separate page to store & link them on since Podpress [I think that’s what we’re using?] is just not playing nice with getting our feed cooking for that…

    So I wouldn’t hold your breath necessarily…but if/when we do get it set up, we’ll let everyone know…

  7. I have been taken to task for my writing style, so I shall forego the usual histrionics.

    1. Shed is better than Arsenal because we are carried along for the ride, as mute and as impotent as Curt Connors. His tragedy – the true legacy of Stan Lee’s Marvel being characters, both hero and villain alike, who are victims of their own good intentions (c.f. Peter Parker, the victim of a rare, understandable moment of spite). We follow Curt as he descends into madness, then abomination, and rail against the horriffic inevitability of it all, while still turning the page. The autocontext of fifty years of stories where Connors’ curse, born out of his grief and determination to overcome that grief, threaten to destroy what little light he has left in the world, adds to our horror. Curt Connors is broken, now. Broken forever. This is what he has made of himself, whereas Roy Harper is merely a victim, reacting to outrage inflicted upon him by capricious, pointless, terrible comics. It’s Animal Man without the postmodernism. That’s what makes it pornographic, in the same way that all reality television is pornographic. Empty button pushing designed to arouse an emotional response where, whatever happens, somebody ends up with salty fluids running down their face.
    2. Ian Boothby was right about Spider-Man in his interview with Tom Spurgeon last Sunday, except in all the places where he was wrong. The average trajectory of all the characters in the Spider-Man universe over the last seventeen years has been towards the broken. Indeed, Spider-Man himself had been broken four times in the three-or-so years leading up to One More Day. But The Scorpion, The Lizard, Doctor Octopus, Aunt May, Jonah Jameson, Mary Jane, Harry Osborn, Norman Osborn, Molten Man, The Vulture, Mysterio, Chameleon, The Kravens, Vermin, Venom, and probably more besides, have all been “broken,” some more than once, only to have the reset button pushed. How you approach that as a reader (or creator) is up to you. Indeed, think about these things for any length of time, and you may find that you need to step away from the comics for a while.
    3. Is Superman ssaving Lois’ integrity by denting his own? I refute utterly the assertion quoted in the podcast that Lois is being punished as a Lara-substitute. Primarily because in the case of Superman and Batman, their mothers are largely ignored, in favour of their fathers. Thomas Wayne was the big Doctor and philanthropist. Jor-El was the scientist and provocateur, at least in the beginning. Subsequent continuity plugs have changed this. I would again urge you all to read Tom DeHaven’s “It’s Superman,” which is the best Superman origin story ever, and has the absolute perfect amount of Krypton in it. In other words, nearly none.
    4. The best stories are vector, not scalar quantities. All-Star Superman, like The Dark Knight Returns, is about escaping the inevitable, or surrendering to it. I’m sure that’s what made Spider-Man more attractive a character at the time he was created: his life had a trajectory. Of course, trajectory suggests target. Beginning suggests end, and we all remember what happened the last time they tried to end Spider-Man, right?
    5. See also Chuck. I rather enjoy Chuck – Kristin Kreuk has just turned up, looking lovely, and Brandon Routh keeps trying to hide his glasses. That story should be over, but it just keeps going. Speaking of which…
    6. Smallville survives on the back of Erica Durance, who is the best Lois Lane there has ever been, even if in the early days, she seemed to be there for her willingness to show skin where Mack and Kreuk would not. Smallville had the opportunity to make a really good go of the Superman Story – which really is only the origin of “Superman” and courting of Lois – and wasted it in favour of the same old fan-baiting. What keeps it going? Some kind of story engine built on the eternal tease, seems clear – and not just the overarching tease of the red and blue suit.
    7. I can’t afford to buy things twice – or even once, in some cases – so I’m missing out on a lot. I’m now in the position of wishing I hadn’t bought King City when it first came out, though. Which is a shame, as I really loved it, and find Brandon Graham, as an artist and comics epicurian, a most enviable figure indeed. I do not envy his position with regards to this series, though.
    8. Is that everything? I had to stop listening whenever you mentioned Lost, as I have yet to see Series Three, Four, Five and Six (not out of choice!).

    Okay. That’s it. Thanks for the mention, again. Maybe someday, it’ll be my superawesome comics and not my superhuman hearing that make the grade.


  8. Sparta USA is so awesome, and Jeff is exactly right– it’s because it’s the modern equivalent of some batshit comic Joe Simon and/or Jack Kirby would have produced in the 1970s. I love that stuff– Prez, Green Team, Sandman, OMAC, etc.

  9. Just started listening to it, and Graeme…that Plastic Man story in Wednesday Comics is written by Evan Dorkin.

  10. Episode1. Black Kiss. I’ve always thought Black Kiss was supposed to be absurdly ridiculous and very, very parodic. Also, I could be wrong but Black Kiss seems to be an attempt to pick up the baton Brian DePalma dropped so hilariously with Body Double. Y’know, that whole porn with a plot brainwave he was getting all frothy about back then. Black Kiss seems to be informed by similar intentions. DePalma ended up producing Body Double. Chaykin produced Black Kiss. For my money I think Chaykin won that one. Black Kiss always makes me laugh anyway. Mind you, so does Body Double…

    I could be biased though, a bit of a Chaykin fan I am. Thanks for giving props to his preoccupation with design.

    Thanks to you, sirs.

  11. Matthew: “I’m now in the position of wishing I hadn’t bought King City when it first came out, though.” Hey, I couldn’t tell by your comment, probably well known to everyone, but just in case– King City has been all-new material since issue 7.

  12. *sigh* I know. Picture a pie chart that is 360° Spent All My Money On Making My Own Comics and 5° Childish Pique.


  13. Black Kiss was re-released a couple of years ago from Eros, which was when I got it.
    I got my copy signed by Chaykin, but still haven’t made it through the bugger.

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