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Wait, What? 67.1 and .2: Krampus and Claus

Jeff Lester


Image ganked from Graeme’s advent calendar at Blog@? Check.

Episode 67.1, featuring Graeme and I pulling a World’s Finest-style caper and switching our traditional viewpoints to talk about Matt Fraction and Tom Brevoort’s interview on the Fear Itself aftermath issues?  Check!

Wait, What? Ep. 67.1: Krampus

Episode 67.2,  with us giving you a holiday gift guide covering collections, floppies, indie books and digital pics? Check.

Wait, What? Ep. 67.2: Claus

Although I usually wait until our podcasts hit iTunes before I create the SavCrit entries, I think this site is going to have Ep. 67 before iTunes does, for maybe as much as a day.  So we invite you to curl up around a nice fire and listen to us wax both naughty and nice (oh man that imagery but it’s too late now just keep forging ahead with me) right before Xmenmas.

Oh, and in case you’re interested in what our gift list pics were  and don’t want to listen to our nattering voices, I’ve included the rough version of the list after the jump.  Feel free to check it out and let us know what we’ve missed!

Books and OGNs:

[note: some books are either comics or visual related but not "true" comics]

  • Thrill Power Overload by David Bishop
  • Just My Type by Simon Garfield
  • Stigmata by Lorenzo Mattotti
  • Celluloid by Dave McKean
  • Lewis & Clark by Nick Bertozzi
  • Habibi by Craig Thompson
  • Love & Rockets Books 3 and 4, by Los Bros Hernandez
  • Finder: Voice by Carla Speed McNeil
  • Gingerbread Girl by Paul Tobin & Colleen Coover


  • Captain America Omnibus by Jack Kirby
  • Thor Omnibus by Walt Simonson
  • Nemesis The Warlock, Vol. 1 by Mills, O’Neill and Talbot
  • The Incal by Jodorowsky & Moebius
  • Kamandi Omnibus Vol. 1 by Jack Kirby
  • Donald Duck:  Lost in the Andes by Carl Barks
  • Never Learn Anything From History by Kate Beaton  (Alternate pick: Hark! A Vagrant)
  • Oglaf Book One by Trudy and Doug
  • Onion Head Monster: Catastrophic by Paul Friedrich
  • Sabertooth Vampire by Mike Russell
  • Bakuman by Tsugumi Ohba and Takeshi Obata
  • Witch Doctor Vol. 1 TPB by Brandon Seifert and Lukas Ketner

“Actual” comics/Floppies/Singles:

  • Ganges #4
  • Wolverine: Debt of Death one-shot
  • Uncanny X-Force #1-18
  • The Walking Dead
  • Batman
  • Daredevil
  • Action Comics
  • Flash
  • Batwoman
  • OMAC
  • Mystic
  • Wolverine and The X-Men

Digital picks:

  • Crying Freeman by Kazuo Koike and Ryoichi Ikegami  (Dark Horse Digital)
  • No. 5 Ikki Comix by Taiyo Matsumoto (Apple App Store)
  • Subscription to Shonen Jump Alpha (Viz)
  • Casanova Avarita by Matt Fraction and Gabriel Ba (Comixology)
  • Batman #252 (DC, Comixology)
  • Silver Star Omnibus by Jack Kirby (Image, Comixology

14 Responses to “ Wait, What? 67.1 and .2: Krampus and Claus ”

  1. I would add the new X-Statix Omnibus to your Christmas list. It’s on mine.
    Happy Holidays gentlemen!

  2. Haven’t had a chance to listen yet, but thank you for mentioning Krampus!

  3. Re: the discussion about how prolific you guys have been from 67.2: THANK YOU for being so.

    I regret that I haven’t yet publicly proclaimed my love for your podcast; over this year, it’s become the podcast to which I most look forward every week. I’m guessing the frequency has something to do with it, but obviously very high quality, compelling, and funny conversation too.

    So thanks again — here’s to keeping it up in 2012.

  4. You and everyone else in the world is mentioning Incal, but can you tell me where I can actually get it for list price? I can’t afford the $1/page price most of those dealers on Amazon are selling it for. Any word on it getting reprinted again?

  5. “Haven’t had a chance to listen yet, but thank you for mentioning Krampus!”

    I’d never, ever heard of Krampus until about a week ago, and this is like the tenth Krampus reference I’ve heard since then!

  6. Simonson’s Thor was great (and I have no nostalgia for that as I only recently even got the idea that I should read it), but it took me just under 7 months to read it! So I totally agree that it shouldn’t be read too quickly (I probably could have been a bit quicker though).

  7. “That was one where Abhay was like, ‘Hey you guys should talk about this,’ and I was like ‘Oh, I’ll click on this link’ and then I felt like my head was about to explode.”

    Merry Christmas, everybody!

  8. All I can say is your podcasts are the perfect accompaniment for slumping over a drawing board, inking brush in hand. Keeps away the night terrors so it does!

    Merry Christmas Gentlemen

    (one and all)

  9. Thanks for discussing that interview at length because I think it’s revealing of fundamental problems at Marvel. (I was going to say ‘in the industry’ instead of ‘at Marvel’, but I’m not seeing quite this level of throw-up-your-hands cynicism at DC or the indies. Unfortunately, Marvel is a big chunk of ‘the industry’.)

    God but Fraction comes off like a cynical jerk in that interview. Not having liked anything he’s written that I’ve read (which admittedly isn’t much), I’m not inclined to give him much sympathy to begin with.

    Listen Fraction, in exchange for being handed a large built-in audience and fictional universe which you didn’t create, you have to work within certain story-telling constraints. Yes, you have to more-or-less leave things as you found them. Yes, the characters have to remain true to their continuity, at least in broad outline. And yes, there’s a lot of water under the bridge and continuity baggage you have to drag along. You seem to be whining that it’s impossible to tell good, moving, important, significant stories within those constraints without resorting to cheap tricks and sensationalism (ie, ‘killing the black guy or de-powering the woman’ – what a snotty remark).

    Bullshit. Writers from Lee/Kirby through Thomas/Gerber through Miller, Simonson, Byrne, Claremont, and countless others have done it for decades. Maybe this job just isn’t for you.

  10. My fiancée got me the KAMANDI Omnibus for Christmas. It is wholly and completely awesome.

    Also, based on your consistent recommendations (and genuinely wanting to find some Fraction that I could enjoy again after a couple of years of his work doing nothing for me), I finally picked up a copy of CASANOVA Book 1, Issue one. I was COMPLETELY blown away by how amazing it was, and I can’t wait to dig further in. Thank you both for the recommendation.

    Also, Merry Christmas! (or Happy Holidays or Mirthful Winter’s Tidings or whatever!). Hope both you gents have a great one, and i wait with baited breath for the end of year wrap up!

  11. I’m writing to inform you that I was listening to an old podcast of yours [have been listening to a lot lately] and fell asleep listening to it.

    I had a dream that I was Matt Fraction. Matt Fraction was a guilt-laden, alcoholic policeman who was investigating crimes involving small children. Occasionally the action would be animated and was drawn by Salvador Larroca but with better colouring. The whole thing was like Fell but a lot more depressing.

    Thought you might enjoy that.

  12. Was I dreaming that you guys mentioned the Archie Married Life series? Cuz it’s great! One of the best things that Archie is putting out right now. It’s got multiple earths, comic book science and soapy coolness. Plus, for a good chunk of it’s run… Norm Breyfogle on art so – double cool! I’m surprised at how much I’m enjoying it.

  13. Just want to say how much I appreciate the work you two put into the podcast. It’s become one of my favorites that I listen to as soon as it’s posted. I know how hard it can be to keep a weekly schedule on something that you do for free on top of your day jobs. Again it’s greatly appreciated, you guys are one of the few sources of genuine, honest, insightful comics criticism and commentary.

    As to the Fraction/Brevoort interview mentioned in the latest episode, I agree that a PR person needs to step in, not take over or feed them their talking points, but to keep them off the mike. There was no point, from a promotional standpoint, for that interview. The series was over and everyone who was predisposed to buying it already did. You would think, especially considering that it was critically drubbed, that it would be smart to move on and let that series rest on it’s own merits for good or ill. Having Fraction work out his obvious ambivalence to the work in not one, but two public forums, is not going to make anyone reevaluate the series or sell more hardcovers. Plus, that was only the latest of at least half a dozen articles and interviews that I know of related to Fear Itself. Even for a well received series that’s overkill.

    Finally, having just listened to the latest Bendis interview on Wordballoon, it is now obvious that Fraction and Brevoort are not good at the Stan Lee “Face Front True Believers” type of hype and shouldn’t try to do it. Avengers vs. X-men is not something I am going to buy, but he made it sound like he had ball making it and comic fans would be crazy not to buy it. He of all the current Marvel creators is keeping the “mighty marvel bullpen” illusion alive were it’s some kind of amazing collaborative fun factory instead of an intellectual property maintenance sweat shop.

  14. Thanks for the podcasts guys. I felt really bad hiding out in a rest area toilet downloading your podcast while my family was wondering what was taking me so long, but it was worth listening to while they fell asleep and I needed to be awake for 4 more hours.

    Thanks for keeping guys like me safe and awake on the road with funnybook talk.

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